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|  | dragonsh 5 months ago I am not sure how long "ls" will take with 1 million entries in directory, given this paradigm. This has been a problem so I use "ls -1" to list files in bash shell, otherwise it takes forever. Probably it might benefit some. Good to see competition in this area with sh, bash, zsh, fish, conch and many others.

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roryrjb 5 months ago
One downvote and counting. This is just my opinion. Let's crank this up a notch. Those advocating for more advanced interfaces are missing the point. Text is all you need, no graphics or objects or widgets, just text. I have no problem with this, I enjoy it like this, we don't need an improvement. There I said it, any downvotes will be worth it, because I get to voice my opinion. In the end I will still be happily using my POSIX shell scripts, awk, sed and enjoy my life.

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erezsh 5 months ago
Maybe you're just not very imaginative. I can see my workflow improve considerably by using a structured-io shell, and I'm already quite proficient in bash. So, I'm very happy some people are trying to make it happen.

Also, I'm not sure what your argument is, except "I don't get it"? It's fine, lots of people don't get stuff. Just move on, and maybe in a few years when it's mature, you'll see it again and go "Ah!"

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|  | nailer 5 months ago On my phone, but ldd bash? Also compare cost of maintaining your own custom secure functions Vs using well known ones.

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bsder 5 months ago
> However, its interesting to see so many dependencies that are required to build it (73 crates last time I checked)

The problem is that Rust has two issues:

1) In Rust, you don't pay for what you don't use. This means that a lot of stuff tends to be an external library since not using something means you can exclude it COMPLETELY. The issue is that things tend to get atomized more finely than most languages would do.

2) Rust is trying to not bake things into a standard library too early. This is a good comment about standard libraries from Python:

"The standard libraries constitute one of Python’s great features, but they tend to suck up all the oxygen. Programmers are reluctant to write libraries that duplicate their functions, so poor libraries in the standard set persist. Only a few people, like Reitz, are willing to write modules that compete with the standards."

https://leancrew.com/all-this/2012/04/where-modules-go-to-di...

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|  | grumpydba 5 months ago > I know the long cased commands like Foo-Bar can be alienating to Unix folks at first, but have you tried just using aliases and not caring about casing. You'd have to alias every command and every option to make it enjoyable for interactive use. And of course those aliases would need to be part of the standards powershell.

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